Joe Rogan–Ana Paulina Luna Podcast

By James Hall

What stood out most to me in the recent Joe Rogan–Ana Paulina Luna interview, which has been widely discussed this week, was the congresswoman’s candid disclosure. She suggested that members of AARO confided in her that they had been quietly instructed—under pressure from undisclosed government entities—to limit transparency during Congressional briefings on certain UAP-related matters.

By contrast, Luna noted that the FBI appears to operate under far fewer constraints and has demonstrated a greater willingness to share information. For her, this disparity points to something deeper: an imbalance in institutional openness that, in practice, is undermining AARO’s ability to meet its public information mandate.

That was my reading of her remarks.

I will also comment that Rep. Luna, who chairs the House Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets, told Rogan that in classified settings she’s heard credible witness accounts describing UAP incidents involving “movements outside of time and space.” She stressed that she couldn’t go into detail without breaching security protocols, but framed it as testimony from “very credible people” that is supported by photographic evidence which she has personally viewed in a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF).

Luna linked these reports to what she called “interdimensional beings” — entities or technologies that might operate through “the time spaces that we currently have.” - According to Gustaf Kilander of "The Independent" article titled “MAGA lawmaker Anna Paulina Luna claims Congress has seen proof of ‘interdimensional beings.” He continues:

— She’s not just speculating — she’s saying this is based on classified imagery and credible witness testimony she’s personally reviewed in a SCIF.